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Improved B.E / B.E Armor - The real Cost

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Manique, Mar 23, 2015.

  1. Manique
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    Hello Cyrene community
    Disgrunted with how some people behave and how greed takes over me and my friend Elayne, worked together to "discover" the Imp B.E. List would like to offer you a guide.

    Some people fool the comunity, having advantage of knowledge, nothing wrong with having advantage with that, but lying/cheating on people and being rude on a planet that needs the support from the pioneers, is disgrunting and makes it a unwelcome experience, people that were even given a statue @ 0x1 TP

    After few weeks here we noticed how hidden everything is, how greedy everyone is and how everyone tries to rule some market.
    Most visitors come here just to check, unaware what the materials are worth they just tt or sell for tt.
    These people will use up those resources to make items you buy, heavilly overpriced, making you think its that expensive to make... but now is it really?

    We got sick of being literally shit on, offended even by the comunity that isnt helpfull at all.
    Being currently part of the comunity, we would like to turn that and offer everyone knowledge and a market they are unware off

    So me and Elayne would like to give the comunity one real "secret" that has been kept for long!


    So here it comes!!!!



    ABOUT THE B.E. Armor!....

    You can aquire the 7x BP's for each part (Limited with 100 clicks) buy obtaining 750x Cyrene Daily Tokens @ 0x1 Depot Teleporter, close to the statues
    This is a repeatable quest, after a week/few days, so the supply (currently) isn't running out at least.

    So before you jump on the NPC without knowing how expensive each part is! Here it is

    Harness
    - 2x Weak Protein Strain
    - 1x Synthetic Rubber


    Arms
    - 3x Weak Calcium Compound
    - 2x Terrestrial Hormone
    - 1x Low Grade Motherboard


    Gloves
    - 1x Fish oil
    - 1x Synthetic Rubber
    - 1x Weak Calcium Compound
    - 1x Low Grade Motherboard

    Shin
    - 2x Outstanding Calcium Compound
    - 1x Pure Choroid
    - 2x Decent Magnesium Component


    Helmet

    - 3x Low Grade Metal Compound
    - 1x Pure Choroid
    - 1x Decent Protein Strain


    Leg Guards

    - 6x Medium Grade Motherboard
    - 5x Component Grease


    Feet

    - 3x Lurker Lube
    - 2x Decent Calcium Compound
    - 1x Synthetic Rubber
    - 1x Low Grade

    So those are the Materials! Its a lvl 4 BP! So it requires lvl 7.5 and should be maxed at lvl 12.5 or so.

    Some of the materials you might be wondering how to do or seems complicated the list right?
    So here's a list of all simplified of the total materials (if you are 100% sucessfull which is hard, next to impossible for all the set), what it takes to get them and what mobs if its the case

    #Materials
    5xComponent Grease - 15x Diluted Body Oil - Merfolken
    2xDecent Calcium Compound - 8x Bone - Sky Wraith / Tree Dragon
    2xDecent Magnesium Component - 4x Protective Coating+4xCracked Shell- Tide Claw
    1xDecent Protein Strain - 2x Bone-in Meat 7x Super Adhesive - Tide Claw
    1xFish oil - 3x Shed Skreel Tail - Skreels
    4xLow grade Metal Compounent - 8x Low Grade Scrap + 4x Zorn Star Ingot
    2xLow grade Motherboard - 4x Low Grade Eletronic + 18x Super Adhesive
    3xLurker Lube - 6x Swamplurker oil + 3x Hardening Agent - Swamp Lurker
    6xMedium Grade Motherboard - 6x Medium Grade Eletronic + 6x Life Essence
    2xOutstanding calcium compound - 2x Protective Coating + 2x Greater Claw
    2xPure Choroid - 2x Kaisenite + 2x Partial Eye Remains
    3xSynthetic Rubber (its a raw material) + Swamplurker
    2xTerrestrial Hormone - 4x Terrestrial Gland + 8x Zorn Star Ingot - Rhino Beetle/MangChang
    4xWeak Calcium Compound - 12x Lesser Claw - Tree Dragon
    2xWeak Protein Strain - 6x Bone-in Meat + 2x Bonding Liquid


    This is the Total list of materials needed and where you get them
    I will make a clearer looking one (or if someone wants to make an image i will edit and add in future).

    So now! You know all there is to know about how to craft! sounds a lot? its nothing but few PED worth TT + Clicks of the limited Blueprints.

    This was quite public information or you'd get it with some work
    But most are yet unware of the wanted Improved B.E.

    So now for the Improved B.E.!...

    The recipe was revealed not long ago
    All you need to do is grab the refiner, drag the armor part fully repaired with materails
    But I will list it once again! and if something is new, I will add how to get it

    -1x Boffin Upgrade Part - Confirmed from Vlanwings, Rumored from Protocore
    -2x Zorn Star Ingot
    -1x Decent Magnesium Component (go up and check)
    -3000 or 3k Sweat (gather it / buy it of a friendly noob!)
    -2x Swamp Lurker Oil
    -5x Imperium Cube (Component 1-5 crafted from Technician BPs, once you get all you all you refine them to create Imp Cube, and from those, together with Cyrene Daily tokens, you will Craft Imperium cubes)
    -1x Fergunson's All Purpose Lube (Limited Blueprint, takes 3xOil Res/3xEye/4x Swamp Lurker Oil/10 Sweat each click)

    Here is the List! a combined tt (if im not mistaken) of 5,73 ped, basicly double the regular B.E. TT! this is the list for EACH part, multiply by 7 and you know what you need for a full set!


    There you are! you know how its made!
    You wonder now why all this?

    So now about the real Costs on the Improved B.E.!...

    As you can see it is a long task to get the materials, if anything fun because the materials can be gathered "easilly" by any regular player or a team of 2, making this quite a jorney and experience.

    We decided to publish this after some rude sellers trying to rip people off with a tremendous cost of 650 a set, one of the people i shall not name, that was anything but helpfull.

    Adding a rough calculations on all materials, failed attemps and all, the set cost hardly more than 180-200 PED! and thats included some failed clicks
    Lets say you even pay 300 for a set for finders fee / work assembling and all this COUNTING the full tt of the set which is about 80PED!!!

    It is to mention Boffin got heavy Markup and a tt of 2.62 ped.
    The imperium cubes will be another expensive part because of the daily tokens, but requires mostly TT stuff

    So protect yourself, Have a read.

    If you desire to aquire any of the parts or anything, feel free to ask in this thread, PM or msg,
    If you desire to sell Boffin Upgrade Parts, me and my friend want to finish our sets ( that is the hardest part to get) and we will pay a fair price and will help you getting your Regular BE / Improved one if thats what you seek, for a fair deal.

    Any info you might seek of the people you should avoid, dont hesitate to contact me privatly, dont want to break forum rules!

    More guides as demand comes will follow!
    All info we gather we will share!

    PS: some values might be wrong as this post was made rather fast, anything wrong or you find fishy, let me know and will be corrected asap
    PPS: Sorry mods if this isn't the right place to post. move it if required!
     
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  2. Manique
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    Hi, nice guide, I've seen the ingredients passed around over the last 6 months or so, didn't realise it was a secret, and not been a crafter I paid no attention to it.

    Couple of little things, the terrestrial parts drop from mangs too & there is 5 cube parts which are then combined and then another bp using tokens to make the cube (I know you will know this, just isn't clear on post)
     
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    Thanks for sharing! will update it!
     
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    Thanks Manique this is great information!!!! And to think me and my friends were way over paying this russian guy... ive got another few ppl interested maybe you can help use get some of that stuff together! THANKS!!!
     
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    Not sure what has caused all this community hating Manique..

    If you just use the forum you can go to Items > Materials and Resources > 'Refined Materials Chart' by TunerS posted Dec 4, 2012. Has not only BE Armor, but much more and it has not been a secret for any one who wanted to know. All info has been there since 2012...Just need to learn how to look for info I guess and stop blaming the whole community if you had an unpleasant experience with someone.
     
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    My Tutorial on B.E. Pilot armor:
    Step 1 Check combines table.
    Step 2 Cut all the drama and bs.
    Step 3 Enjoy your new armor set.
     
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    Thank Manique! Thank you very much! Thanks to your post, now everyone sees how time-consuming process of crafting this armor. All entropinians say thank you when resource prices rise, so will rise and the cost of armor. Anyone who buys these BP (~ 150ped), buy resources and killing first 100 Vlanwings or Protocore (1800 min HP) and not a single Boffin Parts, will also be grateful to you. Discuss with the person does not have even a rudimentary knowledge of economics - it is useless. And if you want to build socialism in the game for money, for a start, read "Capital" Karl Marx and studied classical formula of "money-commodity-money." Then we talk about a fair price.
     
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    I did try the vlanwings and so did my friend, you can check tracker yourself.
    Your arrogance made me post this when you keep trying to fool people and when i did, you started offending me.
    You even mocked so I told i'd warn the comunity about you.

    I politely first asked you about the armor and stuff and instead of giving at least a answer you lied and even tricked me into thinking you were just a humble guy trying to sell a set you bought,
    Few hours later people told me if i wanted i'd have to ask you, because you were the one hoarding the boffin's, and instead of being a bit humble, you were a arrogant prick about it.

    Yes its a long process as i mentioned it, and i did the brief calcs counting the cost on obtaining the BP's as well and everything

    about other guides there, missed them, when i looked it up, didnt find a guide for dummies so to speak to go from nothing to imp BE
     
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    For some holland guys who cheat the poor crafters ... Some of them still have not bought ordered by their same low price guns. "Tomorrow, tomorrow, today there is no money." Hey guys, "tomorrow" was January 5th.
     
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    Protocores ~1.2k hp are easy for anyone with some bot armor like vigilante.
    Vlanwings are harder and actually 2.2k hp since there is no spawn for youngs, but they aren't ment for low lvl hunters anyway, but its purely your choice to run to harder mob when lacking the skills to kill them, sure it becomes expensive that way :)

    And the biggest problem why we started to work on with this guide and all, was cos of the straight out lies from most ppl that have even answered Manique here too. Like the Boffin parts don't drop anymore (noticed it seems more like the ppl that said that, lack skills to kill Vlanwings), they still do drop.
     
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    Exactly for stuff like this, people lying and hidding is why I got a bit upset

    OF COURSE, there are many helpfull people that will share knowledge and info, else i wouldn't be directed to some others and they wouldn't let me know some stuff also.
    There are people who know willing to share, no question about it, but there are far more people that know stuff willing to keep all that away, and as I see it, the moment to let people know about the potential this planet has to offer is now, because the planet is quite crowded due to the rhino rampage
     
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    Reading posts like this when they are CLEARLY AN OPEN FACED LIE just hurts me, especially from members I would say I respect like you Jetman.

    I asked and many others did in chat, even Thanatos would not reveal this secret to his donors, this was a huge secret that was not being publicly shared.
     
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    That information is not provided anywhere on that sheet. The only info is how to craft the basic B.E. set which is available to anyone who would want to craft it due to the BP being one of the easiest to get in the entire game.
     
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    Its no lie tho, about 6 months ago maybe even longer, before the armour mission, someone was asking around, can't remember the name, but I'm sure it was beginning with a V. someone answered him and told him how to make it. I admit tho, there is some large secret keeping, I just didn't realise until recently this was one of them

    Found it in my chatlog, on the 2nd Feb was answed via PM not in chat, my bad
     
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    Sorry I called you a liar I just have seen that line repeated so many times recently as a lie.
     
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    ask CocaCola or McDonalds why do they keep the recipes in secret maybe
     
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    Mcdonalds has competitors for a similar price.
    And they weren't saying they dont know how to make burgers anymore or that burgers aren't produced anymore.
     
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    ppl dont have to share with u any data if they dont want to for whatever reason they have.
    If they lie, ofc it puts them in the bad light, but thats it.

    btw when some1 asks u about if something drops or not, if u say it does, and then if this person fails to loot it on few runs, he will blame u that u lied. from my experience ppl blame other whatever answer they get.

    Good that u already know the recipe, so u can compete with other providing know how or the final product.
     

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